Curse

Asplode · Aug 22, 2005, 01:05 PM // 13:05

The topic pretty much illustrates my complaint succinctly.

Why do swords have to suck, in GW? I mean, there are several decent skills, but in no way can swords ever compete against axes in pvp, it seems. There are several upsides, swords have an anytime cripple/interrupt, and low adrenaline conditions, final thrust is decent, but when it comes down to it, the utility of the sword doesn't make up for its shortcomings in damage.

Max dmg on a sword? 15-22.
Max dmg on a wand? 11-22.

Hmm...

Racthoh · Aug 22, 2005, 01:14 PM // 13:14

Wands can attack from a range as well, don't forget that.

Not sure what your beef is with the damage. Axes do 6-28, swords do 15-22. Max damage is 6 lower, minimum is 9 higher however. Preference of consistency over spike, even though final thrust can easily dish out 100+ damage.

Asplode · Aug 22, 2005, 01:17 PM // 13:17

Right, but if you'd look, axe attacks generally soar over sword attacks in damage.

Dreamcatcher X · Aug 22, 2005, 02:34 PM // 14:34

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Originally Posted by Asplode

Right, but if you'd look, axe attacks generally soar over sword attacks in damage.

Tis true this one;
Sword attacks are faster in terms of attack rate with axe at second and hammer at 3rd. The offset to this is that the slower the attack speed the higher the damage.

White Designs · Aug 22, 2005, 03:01 PM // 15:01

They suck for the same reason stuff like Fiery Dragon Swords, Storm Bows and cool looking +1 Strength Helms exist...for people who only care about looks and coolness.

There's a reason why 90% or so of the people in PvE or Competition Arenas are using a sword, along with Mending.

neoflame · Aug 22, 2005, 03:04 PM // 15:04

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Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher X

Sword attacks are faster in terms of attack rate with axe at second and hammer at 3rd. The offset to this is that the slower the attack speed the higher the damage.

Swords and axes attack at the same rate (~1.33s between attacks) IIRC.

Slade xTekno · Aug 22, 2005, 03:59 PM // 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asplode

Max dmg on a sword? 15-22.
Max dmg on a wand? 11-22.

Hmm...

Don't let him see this, lol.
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OneArmedScissor · Aug 22, 2005, 04:15 PM // 16:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Designs

They suck for the same reason stuff like Fiery Dragon Swords, Storm Bows and cool looking +1 Strength Helms exist...for people who only care about looks and coolness.

There's a reason why 90% or so of the people in PvE or Competition Arenas are using a sword, along with Mending.

Totally agree.

I get so pissed when Rangers on my team in Tombs or Arenas are carrying POS Storm Bows because they're "cool".

Racthoh · Aug 22, 2005, 04:16 PM // 16:16

The more points you put into your weapon, the higher the chance of dealing critical hits. As is my understanding, a critical hit is the max damage of the weapon doubled or something along those lines.

Suppose we have an axe and a sword. Both max damage, required 8 of their respective attributes. You meet the bare minimum of that 8. With that many points into it, you will deal some critical hits but naturally not the same number as if it was higher naturally. Basically now I have a lot more attribute points to spread around.

Would you then prefer to deal the consitent damage range of 15-22 or the risky 6-28?

The sword has the instant cripple, and as we know warriors in PvP are not meant to do much but shut down enemy magic users. The ability to cripple first shot so that your axe wielding warrior kin need not wait several adrenaline later is reason enough to use a sword is it not? We sword-wielding players may not be able to deal the same max damage as a axe warrior but we are certainly not useless.

And let's face it, warriors in general can't consistenty deal the spike damage that an air ele can.

If I am completely wrong about the critical hits and what not, flame on.

Oh, and Chaos Axes, Crystalline Swords, Fellblades, Storm Bows, and Mursaat Hammers bug me to no end. Wish I could find one to make a profit off of some sucker.

Weezer_Blue · Aug 22, 2005, 05:27 PM // 17:27

Why do they have to suck? Er... I dunno. But they do.

Hammers are my favorite, closely followed by the axe. But really, you can't beat the damage and superior interuptions on steroids that are knockdowns.

Yukito Kunisaki · Aug 22, 2005, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Don't be jealous of the chaos axe and fellblade. At LEAST their attack speed isn't shit. [in fact it's as fast as any other weapon] The storm bow however DOES SUCK in terms of atk speed...

but it's range is undeniably the max range of the bows...

Scaphism · Aug 22, 2005, 06:03 PM // 18:03

This isn't a build.
It's not even a strategy discussion.
It's a complaint, and it doesn't belong here. I hope it was cathartic, because now it's...Closed.